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New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

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New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by Ezekiel Freshmen on Tue 8 Jul 2014 - 18:02

After burning my scx10 esc on the 6 july Segar trail foolishly using 3s lipo on a 2s esc, I went to search for a new one that can really handle 3s. My first thought was the New Axial AE5, and found out that was just a rebranded Hobbywing wp1040 that costs 39usd on TH. So if you wonder if it can handle 3s, it can.

The latest version HOBBYWING QUICRUN WP1060, I read many reviews that it is Waterproof(Submarine) and INDESTRUCTABLE ! Some overseas SCX10 users have that esc and at only 18.90usd each ! So I got 3 pieces at

http://www.rcecho.com/HOBBYWING-QUICRUN-WP1060-R-C-Hobby-Brushed-Motor-ESC-Speed-Controllers-SE025.html




http://www.hobbywing.com/product_show.asp?id=300

Got Fwd/Brake/Rev , Fwd/Brake , Fwd/Rev (instant one, also got drag brake)

I dunno if you guys ever went to http://www.rcecho.com/home.php, but they have a lot of tamiya and Hobbywing products, some cheaper than Stargek.

I only have good experience with Hobbywing brushless esc for my airplanes, one of the best ESC manufacturers imo.
they also got very good and powerful brushless combo, cheap cheap.. 60 to 100 ++ usd. Shipping starts at 13.80usd HK EMS for 600grams. Delivery 4-6days. Or $5 for 1-3 weeks standard air.

The thing is, comparing Hobbywing to Hobbyking and Turnigy brands, Hobbywing has a more proven reputation. And at the same cost for us.

Good find right !?

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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by wyetuck88 on Tue 8 Jul 2014 - 18:32

Test first if good pls report, i am also looking for a brushed esc.

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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by laneboysrc on Tue 8 Jul 2014 - 19:54

Hobbywing is certainly good stuff. This ESC has nice touches like being waterproof and having the on/off switch bolted on directly.

The ESC you linked has only one downside: 1kHz PWM frequency. This is very low, and has the effect that the vehicle has less torque when driving very, very slow.
The HK 45A brushed uses 8kHz (SGD ~15 shipped), the Axial AS2/3 7 kHz. Those provide very smooth driving at low speeds, but neither handles 3S.


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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by Ezekiel Freshmen on Tue 8 Jul 2014 - 20:31

That tall thing on the esc is not the on off switch. It's two jumpers for Nimh and Lipo selector and mode selector. On off switch is still on another cable. I'm aware of the 1pwm frequency, but the 3s Capability is still my main priority, volt up and gear down might counteract the low frequency and may end up being the same as maybe around 3k ?

Not for slow competition crawling but fine for trail and wheel speed hill climbing. At the same time, having mechanical braking from a smaller pinion as compared to esc braking can help save power too.

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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by laneboysrc on Wed 9 Jul 2014 - 16:51

Indeed the switch is separate, but it can clip onto the ESC housing. Useful feature -- often it is such a pain to mount the switch.

Set-up using simple jumpers is another great feature. So simple; no more fiddling with a tiny button and incomprehensible LED blinking patterns  Evil or Very Mad 

One thing to watch out for: the BEC is "linear", which means that at 3S it may get very hot (output is 5V, so 12V-5V = 7V; 7V * 2A = 14W of heat). Our Novak Eiger ESC says in the manual that for 3S a separate BEC is required; will be interesting what HobbyWing says (manual not online Sad )

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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by Ezekiel Freshmen on Wed 9 Jul 2014 - 19:32

I plan to use a seperate bec already. The manual is online

http://www.hobbywing.com/uploadfiles/sx/file/Manual/QUICRUN/HW-SM303ENG.pdf

Its under manual tab in the product page.

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LAI LIAO !!!! COME LIAO !!!

Post by Ezekiel Freshmen on Fri 11 Jul 2014 - 15:04



3 days only !!! Excited !!
I go open it now !!

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Review

Post by Ezekiel Freshmen on Fri 11 Jul 2014 - 20:14

Here's my Review.

Key features
-Simple to choose between F/B/R mode for trailing and F/R mode for crawling, just reposition a jumper plug
-Submarine and only feels warm on 3s Lipo


Good
-Packaging like hand phone box, very pleasant
-Feels solid, good wires and sealed switch that can be mounted onto the ESC body
-Comes with shrink tubes for your soldering on your connector if you decide to cut off the tamiya plug.
-Easy for first time use as it automatically calibrates the throttle range. No need to press button and manually register the end points.
-I dunked it and went running into the rain puddles no problems
-At 3s lipo with separate BEC, feels slightly warm to the touch

-F/B/R mode is the standard double tap reverse, no drag brake
-F/B mode no drag brake
-F/R mode motor direction changes in an instant, very very strong drag brakes

-Simple selection between Lipo and NIMH, just reposition a jumper plug
-Selection between modes is also by a jumper plug, simple to choose between F/B/R for trailing and F/R for crawling

Bad
-Jumper plug feels well made, but tiny and can get lost
-Cannot change amount of drag brake for F/R mode
-Slow drive ability is mediocre at 1k pwm, you can actually feel the difference

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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by laneboysrc on Fri 11 Jul 2014 - 21:26

Awesome review, thanks for your effort!
Always good to have more products for us scalers and crawlers!

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Re: New 3S Brushed Esc for our rigs .

Post by Ezekiel Freshmen on Mon 14 Jul 2014 - 11:12

I want to make a correction.

Slow drive ability is actually quite good, due to how this esc handles 3s compared to my previous, I actually had to increase the Exponential to allow very fine adjustments at low levels.

Not super snail slow but "scale" slow, like car moving with half clutch without stepping on gas.

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