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Post by derrickwthip4 on Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 19:15

Hi I need some info about electronic parts?
Plan to buy Axial Wraith Kit but don't know what Electronic to get :-

1) Prefer brushless system.(ESC with water proof+Motor)
Where to buy? budget around $200-$250
2) Servo with water proof.
Where to buy? budget around $50-$70
3) Transmitter & Receiver.
Where to buy? budget around $250-$300
(Swan hobby auntie Winne recommend me Futaba 4PL)
4) Charger & Li-Po batt 5000mAh.
Where to buy?
a)budget for charger around $90
b)budget for bettery around $60,
if using 5000mAh batt what's the running time?



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Re: Help!!! Electronics ??? For 1-10 crawler

Post by qks57 on Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 19:44

1 - not many waterproof brushless esc around. 1 of them is traxxas's velineon vxl-3s esc. it can support 540-size sensored and sensorless brushless motors. sensorless are ok with water, just need regular oiling, but sensored motors can't touch water, the pcb board(even with waterproof coating sprayed on) will fry. personally i'm using a sensored motor setup with a 1/8 hobbywing 80A esc.

2 - water proof servo can get fitec's FS5621M servo. 21kg waterproof.

3 - depends on what system u wanna get, and how many channel. 4PL is 1 of the most recommended as it has 4WS mixing and a 4th channel for anything else.
3PL is another recommended system with 3 channels. has 4WS mixing as well. should be more suited for your budget as its below S$200 from Singapore Hobby Supplies.

4 - charger can get from hobbyking.com.. quick shipping and prices are cheap..

5000mah can run for quite some time.. i'm using 4000mah and can run for about 45 mins..

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 19:55

Hey tks bro noted will think twice b 4 I purchase :-)
About the servo u mention take how long to receive n do I need to make payment first or collect n pay at the same time?

Any ones got any more info ???

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Post by qks57 on Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 20:17

takes between 10-14 days to arrive, payment upon collection. Smile i'm using the same servo for my Wraith kit.

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Sun 23 Oct 2011 - 20:30

Tks bro will let u know when I'm ready to build my kit, plan to get the kit tomorrow.
1)Where can I buy the traxxas's velineon vxl-3s esc with sensored motor what's are the price?

2)Where can I buy the hobbywing ESC with sensored motor u mention what's are the price?

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 0:31

Hi qks57 when u build ur wraith the kit come with the spur n pinion gear do they match the ESC + BL motor that u r using are the gear ratio correct can match or need to replace the spur n pinion gear that's match the Brushless system? If need to replace what r the best setting n where can I get the spur gear from?

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Post by qks57 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 10:19

derrickwthip4 wrote:Tks bro will let u know when I'm ready to build my kit, plan to get the kit tomorrow.
1)Where can I buy the traxxas's velineon vxl-3s esc with sensored motor what's are the price?

2)Where can I buy the hobbywing ESC with sensored motor u mention what's are the price?

the velineon vxl-3s only available from online. sensored motor is separate, as the vxl-3s combo comes with a sensorless motor. esc is available separate, if bid from ebay usually about S$130+ for the esc. motor can get for about S$50, mine's from a friend ex-shop so its cheap. the hobbywing esc can get from winnie. not sure of the price as i didn't buy mine from her.

derrickwthip4 wrote:Hi qks57 when u build ur wraith the kit come with the spur n pinion gear do they match the ESC + BL motor that u r using are the gear ratio correct can match or need to replace the spur n pinion gear that's match the Brushless system? If need to replace what r the best setting n where can I get the spur gear from?

i built my wraith with 32 pitch gears. i did not use the stock spur/pinion.all i do is to match the original gear ratio of 1:4, and run different gears. 32 pitch gears tend to be more durable and more resistant against small stones as the gear teeth are bigger than 48 pitch gears. i got my spur and pinions all from online. 48p pinions are easily available from winnie or tai sing. as for spur wise, its not so easy to find as need to find spurs that have the holes for the spur gear adaptor to screw on.

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Re: Help!!! Electronics ??? For 1-10 crawler

Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:08

Hi today I make a trip down to a few LHS to get some info of parts most of them advice me to buy online !!! :-( I got a felling that crawler parts in LHS don't carry much of the items !!!
Why like that ??? :-@
I also visited the track a Segar Rd below the High Way nice place :-)
Ok come back to the main topic found out some items
1) LRP brush ESC 100% water proof price $100 n brush motor with 27t $30.
2) Hobbywing BL combo system with sensor motor 13.5t price $160.

So which one should I buy brush or brushless ?
I will be using the stock spur gear (as mention from YouTube the teeth of the spur gear are 82) if I choose LRP brush system what pitch pinion I should get? or
If I choose Hobbywing BL system what pitch pinion I should get? cos don't know much on gear ratio :-/
Can someones advice me witch web side carry spare parts for Axial Wraith ?
Hope to receive some reply from someone's tks

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Post by boolean21 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:19

derrickwthip4 wrote:Hi today I make a trip down to a few LHS to get some info of parts most of them advice me to buy online !!! :-( I got a felling that crawler parts in LHS don't carry much of the items !!!
Why like that ??? :-@
I also visited the track a Segar Rd below the High Way nice place :-)
Ok come back to the main topic found out some items
1) LRP brush ESC 100% water proof price $100 n brush motor with 27t $30.
2) Hobbywing BL combo system with sensor motor 13.5t price $160.

So which one should I buy brush or brushless ?
I will be using the stock spur gear (as mention from YouTube the teeth of the spur gear are 82) if I choose LRP brush system what pitch pinion I should get? or
If I choose Hobbywing BL system what pitch pinion I should get? cos don't know much on gear ratio :-/
Can someones advice me witch web side carry spare parts for Axial Wraith ?
Hope to receive some reply from someone's tks

Bro, u can consider the novak waterproof esc promo at $49... Smile

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Re: Help!!! Electronics ??? For 1-10 crawler

Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:21

Hey tks where can buy from LHS or online?
I prefer LHS :-)

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:23

Oh!!! Sorry to mention on the TX n RX!!!
1) Futaba 4PL $285 (with back light)
2) Sanwa MT4 $285 (with telemetry system)

Which one should I get need advice again tks

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Post by boolean21 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:33

derrickwthip4 wrote:Hey tks where can buy from LHS or online?
I prefer LHS :-)
Can get at LHS... Can get at tai sing hpi... Will ask bro harakiri whether the promo is still on...

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:54

Sorry bro the Novak ESC u mention brush or brushless ?

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Post by boolean21 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 18:56

derrickwthip4 wrote:Sorry bro the Novak ESC u mention brush or brushless ?

Its brushed, just checked with bro harakiri, still available. Smile

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 19:00

Ok tks so do u know which motor turn n pinion should I use ?

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Post by boolean21 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 19:03

derrickwthip4 wrote:Ok tks so do u know which motor turn n pinion should I use ?
U setting up for crawling for bashing?
Have a drive on bro rtech's wraith to see if u like it?

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 19:46

I would like both if can tks any way .

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Post by RTECH on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 20:34

derrickwthip4 wrote:I would like both if can tks any way .

Wink My old friend, no need to have super electronics for crawling. Anyway we are doing simple trailing , river and mud crossing. You also dun wan your $$$$ electronics to be damage by the water.
If you want bashing using the wraith then you have to hop-up a lot of things. I recomand using short course truck or similiar for bashing.
You need waterproof electronics , just DIY using neutral cure silicon to cover up the PCB in the esc , servo and rx. Simple , cheap ,effective, tested and aprroved by SGCRAWLERS.
Remember your super hop-up TT-01? Wink Wat happens to your TX and RX? You sold all of them again?

You should have get the RTR since you dun have any electronics. So far the stock electronics is more than enuff for trailing.

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Post by slow on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 20:57

Ya Man, RTECH is right.

Get the Axial RTR Wraith is good enough liao.

If you buy it and play still find it no good then do the upgrade.

Or you can just Sell Sell Sell

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 21:47

U are right Rtech but still like the tip-up items lay may think twice this time before I purchase ok will still prefer the wraith but on the electronic may get the basic one lor may be for the water proof electron side may need help from SGcrawler kaki tks.


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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 21:51

Hey Rtech how much u paid for the rtr seem like LHS don't sell leh only online got hor can provide the web side to me may consider tks

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 22:06

Ok tks :-)

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Post by boolean21 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 22:13

derrickwthip4 wrote:Hey Rtech how much u paid for the rtr seem like LHS don't sell leh only online got hor can provide the web side to me may consider tks

Check out towerhobbies.com cheapest so far... And fast too...
Use the usd75 discount code... Go register an account in towerhobbies and u will receive the coupon codes within a few days... Smile

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Mon 24 Oct 2011 - 22:15

Tks will check it out ;-)

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 13:29

Hi bro u mean Nosram la not Novak yes selling at $49 with water proof but no break leh.
Hey what about Nosram matrix ESC (No water proof) can use brush/ brushless $89. Dragon Sensored BL Motor 15.5t(brushed rating 27t)$49 if with this motor I can do some bashing n crawling also is it a go buy need advice again tks

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Post by boolean21 on Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 13:40

derrickwthip4 wrote:Hi bro u mean Nosram la not Novak yes selling at $49 with water proof but no break leh.
Hey what about Nosram matrix ESC (No water proof) can use brush/ brushless $89. Dragon Sensored BL Motor 15.5t(brushed rating 27t)$49 if with this motor I can do some bashing n crawling also is it a go buy need advice again tks

Oh ya bro, my bad... Razz

Sensored motors, you need to silicone the pcb...
For crawling, brushed setups are still better....

For the speed, try out bro rtech's... He is running 27t on the wraith...

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 14:02

Hey bro brushed set got forward n reverse but no break for crawler no break can ???

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Post by boolean21 on Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 14:26

derrickwthip4 wrote:Hey bro brushed set got forward n reverse but no break for crawler no break can ???
The nosram no brake? I am using some esc with brake.. Some without.... I don't feel a difference... Haha...
But i'm a newbie la... Maybe you guys can feel it... Razz
But crawlers really don't need high end stuffs....
Dont really need high end stuffs to mud the crawlers man... Smile

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Post by derrickwthip4 on Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 14:29

Tks for ur help I still think think think again :-)

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Post by boolean21 on Tue 25 Oct 2011 - 14:43

derrickwthip4 wrote:Tks for ur help I still think think think again :-)
No worries man.... Slowly think...
Save the extra bucks for more crawlers! Buy buy buy! Very Happy

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