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Post by topper Mon 17 Jul 2017 - 17:21

Hello guys, I am a new member here Smile just wanna say hi and yes I do have some problem and been seeking answers, that is how I ended up here.

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Post by laneboysrc Wed 19 Jul 2017 - 14:40

Welcome on board!

What problem do you have?

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Post by topper Wed 19 Jul 2017 - 14:58

Hello Werner,

Good afternoon, I am having issue with the controller of my Maisto Rock Crawler Extreme, it would go forward and reverse just fine, just not left and right, when I took the controller apart, I can see that the forward reverse is actuated via 2 buttons which gets depressed when I press the trigger.

It is a pistol grip remote control.

The problem I see is the left right steering. I can see on the PCB, there are 3 contacts leads, lets call it A, B and C. When the steering is turned left, A is pushed against B which makes it goes left, and when the steering is turned right, B and C gets pushed together. Problem thou, it seems something that is supposed to push them together is missing from in there, and I do not recall anything falling out....

So I guess I am here to see who have a similar model ( 27Mhz - 3 channels ). Whether they can be so kind as to take a photo of the steering mechanism, I do not seem to be able to find them anywhere, not even on ifixit etc.

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Post by laneboysrc Thu 20 Jul 2017 - 16:53

It will be hard to find that exact model of transmitter. I guess you best bet will be to glue a piece of plastic, or use a screw, as actuator for the buttons.
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Post by topper Thu 20 Jul 2017 - 17:05

laneboysrc I will try and post some photos tonight.

but your idea is sound, my only concern is whether screwing into the plastic will break it, anyways I will wait till I post some photos so you can let me know if the ideal is sound or not Smile thanks for your attention, you are the only help I can get after asking and searching around for almost 6 months lol

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Post by topper Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:41

Hello laneboysrc, thanks for your PM, unfortunately I have not post enough to reply to you.  Let me share some photos here, first here you can see the PCB board and the 3 contact leads I was talking about.  If the left lead and center lead touches then it goes right, if right lead and center lead touches, then it goes left.

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The leads are on the right side of the PCB.

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Post by topper Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:46

Here is a photo showing the alignment of the 3 lead to the steering inverse "V" mechanism...

Lead to steering inverse "V" alignment

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Post by topper Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:50

Here I turn the steering on the controller to the left ( when holding it in the proper orientation, view now shows you looking from under the steering knob of the controller ).

Turning steering left on the controller
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You can see a gap between the left most lead and the right side of the plastic, there is a height gap there and it is not moving those leads, also from this photo you can see how far the "legs" of the inverse "V" move... so some how something is missing here and i am trying to find out and I do not seem to find any online resource or photo of it.

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Post by topper Wed 26 Jul 2017 - 17:53

Also if you see the photo when the steering has been turned left, the "V" travels by a lot, if I were to stick a tiny screw on each leg of the "V" it would have move the left lead too far into the right lead zone... which also lead me to think there must be something there but when I first opened the enclosure months ago I took note to make sure nothing fell out and there wasn't any lose pieces as far as I can tell...

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Post by laneboysrc Thu 27 Jul 2017 - 8:53

Thanks for the photos!
If I am seeing it correctly, none of the switch contacts extend far enough down to get in contact with the inverse V, despite the PCB being seated correctly.

In theory there could be two ways the switch and inverse V operate:
- The edges of the V push the outer contacts of the switch to the middle contact
- The edges of the V push the middle switch contact to the outer contacts

Given how far the inverse V travels when you move the steering, I would say that the second scenario is the case: the inverse V is supposed to move the middle contact to either the left or right outer contact.
There may be a small piece gone missing that hooks onto the middle contact and extends down into the space between the inverse V.

If that is the case, then an easy fix would be to solder a stiff wire onto the middle switch contact that extends down into the inverse V, so that when the V moves it takes the middle with it and pushes it left/right.
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Post by topper Wed 2 Aug 2017 - 14:27

Hello LaneBoys, great news, thanks for your insights, I have fixed the problem. It is so easy, no soldering of wire is required to extend the middle lead.

All I used was a cable tie. It has the perfect rigidity too. So what i did was use a cable tie, cut it to the right length so that I can bend one end (the short leg of the letter "L") into 90 degree. The long leg of the "L" goes into the inverse "V" because it is plastic and bendable it can form a curve when the "V" is centered and when you turn the steering to either extremities, the stretches enough and still stay inside the grove of the inverse "V"

On the short leg of the "L" I cut a slit down the middle so that the middle contact lead is sitting inside this slit, the short leg of the "L" is oriented such that it curves out from behind the middle lead and that was it.

The cable tie being flat was thin enough to also move and slide behind all 3 leads without interference.

So once again, thank you very much for that insight into how the mechanics of it should work, that was the critical information I need to move forward!

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Post by topper Wed 2 Aug 2017 - 14:44

Here is a sketch of my solution, once I screwed it all in and tested it to be working fine, I just didn't wanna open it back up again lol....

The cable tie solution

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Post by laneboysrc Fri 4 Aug 2017 - 9:35

Congrats, well done! Make sure you join the next outing, watch the board for announcements.
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