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Post by awesome on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 1:51

boolean21 wrote:i'm using traxxas shafts for my honcho... works great... no popping out of the drive shafts ever since the change.... i only changed the rear one that is linked to the axle...

i can't use metal ones cos have to cut the shaft shorter in order to use the dig unit... but so far so good, not a pop... Smile

or get these.... should secure it nicely...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Axial-XR10-Driveshaft-Ring-W-Setscrews-Grey-AX30501-/390358062664?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae3275648#ht_1912wt_871


yeap saw these at ckrc but not sure if these will be pushed out by the york as there is very little space at the shaft end to fit. I bought the MIP shafts instead.

http://www.ckrccrawlers.com/mip-drive-shafts-for-axial-ax10-scorpion-2-p-908.html



Have you tried using cable ties? I think it should be stong enough to keep the arms together..

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by boolean21 on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 1:59

awesome wrote:
boolean21 wrote:i'm using traxxas shafts for my honcho... works great... no popping out of the drive shafts ever since the change.... i only changed the rear one that is linked to the axle...

i can't use metal ones cos have to cut the shaft shorter in order to use the dig unit... but so far so good, not a pop... Smile

or get these.... should secure it nicely...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Axial-XR10-Driveshaft-Ring-W-Setscrews-Grey-AX30501-/390358062664?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ae3275648#ht_1912wt_871


yeap saw these at ckrc but not sure if these will be pushed out by the york as there is very little space at the shaft end to fit. I bought the MIP shafts instead.

http://www.ckrccrawlers.com/mip-drive-shafts-for-axial-ax10-scorpion-2-p-908.html



Have you tried using cable ties? I think it should be stong enough to keep the arms together..

yeah, the MIP shalfs would solve the problem totally.. Smile
didn't use any retainers... traxxas shalf works great.. Smile

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by RTECH on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 10:54

Very Happy Awesome, if you really into rockcrawling, MOA is the way to go.
advantage of MOA over shaft driven rock crawler:
*No drive shaft, so no centre gearbox equal low CG.
*both motor on axle increase weight on axle, low CG.
*Dig for both front and rear, no additional hardware require.
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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by awesome on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 11:57

RTECH wrote:Very Happy Awesome, if you really into rockcrawling, MOA is the way to go.
advantage of MOA over shaft driven rock crawler:
*No drive shaft, so no centre gearbox equal low CG.
*both motor on axle increase weight on axle, low CG.
*Dig for both front and rear, no additional hardware require.

Already bought the scorpion loh so just have to live with it for now. Let's see how well it performs first with the upgrades available. XR10? Smile

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by RTECH on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 19:54

awesome wrote:
RTECH wrote:Very Happy Awesome, if you really into rockcrawling, MOA is the way to go.
advantage of MOA over shaft driven rock crawler:
*No drive shaft, so no centre gearbox equal low CG.
*both motor on axle increase weight on axle, low CG.
*Dig for both front and rear, no additional hardware require.

Already bought the scorpion loh so just have to live with it for now. Let's see how well it performs first with the upgrades available. XR10? Smile

Surprised Yup, the XR10.
Your upgrades will make it stronger not perform better. You can use the scorpion for trailing and Xr10 for serious rock crawling.
Trust me if your rock crawler cannot perform , you will get tired of it. And worst is if you hop-up the crawler, you will not willing to sell it because you spend so much on it.


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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by slow on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 20:10

Or you can sell away the AX10 and buy the XR10 tongue
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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by boolean21 on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 20:38

How much how much? Haha

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by RTECH on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 20:44

Now i think price drop cos the Xr10 is out for quite sometime liao . Kit should be around US$280 bah.

This video is a stock Xr10 , see how well it crawl:
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Post by awesome on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 21:51

Piangz..bought scorpion 3wks ago now ask me to sell...I print $$ issit? Haven't even warmed up my scorpion yet....buy xr10 then later dunno how much $$ for the electronics...wait lah..

And to add..I'm still waiting for my ax10 upgrades to arrive...

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by boolean21 on Sun 6 Nov 2011 - 22:29

awesome wrote:Piangz..bought scorpion 3wks ago now ask me to sell...I print $$ issit? Haven't even warmed up my scorpion yet....buy xr10 then later dunno how much $$ for the electronics...wait lah..

And to add..I'm still waiting for my ax10 upgrades to arrive...

Keep the ax10! Smile get some trail rigs... Very Happy
So you can have both sides of crawling fun! Smile


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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by awesome on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 17:35

RTECH wrote:Now i think price drop cos the Xr10 is out for quite sometime liao . Kit should be around US$280 bah.

This video is a stock Xr10 , see how well it crawl:

Whoa nice. Climbs like a breeze... Smile

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by RTECH on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 17:55

Surprised Yup, really need dig for rock crawling. CG is also very important.
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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by awesome on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 18:13

RTECH wrote:Surprised Yup, really need dig for rock crawling. CG is also very important.

Sian..wish my scorpion can climb like that Sad

Yeah. Think I'll get the dig system. I'm going to install rear steering too. Would you suggest to use stick type transmitter or pistol type will do? Pistol type only got 4ch....

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Post by awesome on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 18:17

Just came to mind that my PCM tx may not be able to do steering mix..

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by boolean21 on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 18:36

awesome wrote:
RTECH wrote:Surprised Yup, really need dig for rock crawling. CG is also very important.

Sian..wish my scorpion can climb like that Sad

Yeah. Think I'll get the dig system. I'm going to install rear steering too. Would you suggest to use stick type transmitter or pistol type will do? Pistol type only got 4ch....

Yo bro, dig already reduces the turning radius, you don't really need the rear steer if you have the dig installed...

If budget allows, go for vanquish dig... Many good reviews on rccrawler.com...
if want cheaper, get the hot racing dig... I'm using hr dig for both my honcho and the ax10... Works well... Smile

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Post by awesome on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 20:41

boolean21 wrote:
awesome wrote:
RTECH wrote:Surprised Yup, really need dig for rock crawling. CG is also very important.

Sian..wish my scorpion can climb like that Sad

Yeah. Think I'll get the dig system. I'm going to install rear steering too. Would you suggest to use stick type transmitter or pistol type will do? Pistol type only got 4ch....

Yo bro, dig already reduces the turning radius, you don't really need the rear steer if you have the dig installed...

If budget allows, go for vanquish dig... Many good reviews on rccrawler.com...
if want cheaper, get the hot racing dig... I'm using hr dig for both my honcho and the ax10... Works well... Smile

Thanks for the recommendations. My rear steering kit is already on it's way here. Had a chance to witness dig in action today. It allows you to pivot and turn by locking the rear wheels. Quite cool Smile with rear steering I should be able to turn at sharp bend yet keep the rig in motion bah...already bought liao loh..

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Post by boolean21 on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 21:11

awesome wrote:

Thanks for the recommendations. My rear steering kit is already on it's way here. Had a chance to witness dig in action today. It allows you to pivot and turn by locking the rear wheels. Quite cool Smile with rear steering I should be able to turn at sharp bend yet keep the rig in motion bah...already bought liao loh..

What tx do you plan to use for your rear steer? Or just use a y-cable to control the rear servo?
Rear steer will help reduce turning radius a little... Just stick with it and try first lor... Since on the way liao... If not satisfied, then add a dig later... Smile

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by awesome on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 22:19

boolean21 wrote:
awesome wrote:

Thanks for the recommendations. My rear steering kit is already on it's way here. Had a chance to witness dig in action today. It allows you to pivot and turn by locking the rear wheels. Quite cool Smile with rear steering I should be able to turn at sharp bend yet keep the rig in motion bah...already bought liao loh..

What tx do you plan to use for your rear steer? Or just use a y-cable to control the rear servo?
Rear steer will help reduce turning radius a little... Just stick with it and try first lor... Since on the way liao... If not satisfied, then add a dig later... Smile

Am looking either the futaba 4PL or 4PKS but may try using my current JR PCM 9XII if can work..can't decide leh...

looking at my crawler i think a lot needs to be done..have to see how it performs after the upgrades..haiz..XR10..... Smile


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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by RTECH on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 22:23

Like boo skywalker said, rear steer is not necessary. The rear steer is also not allow in rock crawling competition.
The dig not only allow pivot turn , but the most important thing as you observe closely in the video of the stock XR10, in vertical climb when the rear is locked. This cause the front wheel to grap the front rock deeper for more traction.
The dig also prevent the rig from flipping over when going down hill as the rear is lighter. When the rear wheels are locked, the front wheel pull the rigs causing the rig rear end to squat and the rear tires will bite the rocks , which prevent from lifting up.

Stick or wheel tX depends on personal preference. For wheel TX, can accesss the 3rd channel switch easier then the stick Tx.
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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by RTECH on Mon 7 Nov 2011 - 22:38

The video i show you here is a extreme rock crawler chassis. Notice a pro rock crawler does not look scale anymore. It is more of performance then looks. You can see the centre of the chassis is almost empty , all the electronics and bat. are mounted on the front and near the axle.
This video clearly shows the operation of the dig. Rear wheels lock is known as "Front Dig". And front wheel lock is known as " Rear Dig".

Tires plays the most important role in rock crawling. The 1st thing to hop-up , are the tires.
You can have the best set-up in the world but without good tires, the rig ain't gonna perform.

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by khpan2003 on Tue 17 Jan 2012 - 17:12

awesome wrote:Just came to mind that my PCM tx may not be able to do steering mix..

hello bro, you can use your heli 6ch tx and rx for this crawler pirat

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Post by awesome on Tue 17 Jan 2012 - 17:55

khpan2003 wrote:
awesome wrote:Just came to mind that my PCM tx may not be able to do steering mix..

hello bro, you can use your heli 6ch tx and rx for this crawler pirat

Hi bro welcome to the gang. Yeap I manage to do aileron-rudder mix too Smile

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Post by khpan2003 on Wed 18 Jan 2012 - 23:31

awesome wrote:
khpan2003 wrote:
awesome wrote:Just came to mind that my PCM tx may not be able to do steering mix..

hello bro, you can use your heli 6ch tx and rx for this crawler pirat

Hi bro welcome to the gang. Yeap I manage to do aileron-rudder mix too Smile

ha ha.. me to the gang?? i'm a sleeping and lazy crawlers owner ha ha.. see sunny will melt lol!

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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by awesome on Thu 19 Jan 2012 - 14:33

What rig do you have? Me too, been slack. So far only crawl once. Hee..

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Post by awesome on Fri 27 Jan 2012 - 9:05

so here's a pic of my shelf queen.. Smile


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Post by awesome on Fri 27 Jan 2012 - 9:06

on rip-saw tyres Smile


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Post by awesome on Fri 27 Jan 2012 - 9:08

relax..it's Friday!! Looking forward to my crawling this weekend Smile


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Re: Awesome's AX10 Scorpion

Post by slow on Fri 27 Jan 2012 - 9:26

Wow.. .. AX10 with Proline Tuber.. ..Nicely done..

Y i never think of doing that.. ..
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Post by boolean21 on Fri 27 Jan 2012 - 9:29

slow wrote:Wow.. .. AX10 with Proline Tuber.. ..Nicely done..

Y i never think of doing that.. ..

because u already did! haha...

nice ax10!

hnm, now got how many proline tubers in the group liao ah?

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Post by awesome on Fri 27 Jan 2012 - 10:05

Thanks..this tuber has been ripped apart. the original not suitable for rock crawling as it has a lot of restrictions..

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